Together Digital Power Lounge, Women in Digital with Power to Share
Digital is a demanding and competitive field. And women are still grossly underpaid & underrepresented. But we are not powerless; we have each other. Together Digital Power Lounge is your place to hear authentic conversations from women in digital who have power to share. Listen and learn from our amazing guests along with host Amy Vaughan, Owner and Chief Empowerment Officer of Together Digital. Together Digital is a diverse and collaborative community of women who work in digital who choose to share their knowledge, power, and connections. To learn more, visit www.togetherindigital.com.
Together Digital Power Lounge, Women in Digital with Power to Share
Source Your Power From Within
Join us today as Tian Philson shares her journey to inner strength with host Amy Vaughn. They discuss self-alignment, emotional resilience, networking, and grounding techniques. Amy reflects on burnout and the power of joy. Gain insights on hidden talents, values, and growth. Whether you're an entrepreneur, leader, or facing challenges, discover guidance to unleash your inner strength. Stay tuned for coaching tips, yoga's transformation, and selling with empathy. Embark on this journey toward fulfillment and growth. Plug in, get comfy, and explore with us!
Featured in the Episode
Tian Philson
Tian’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/tian-philson-lsfwellness
Instagram: Instagram (@lsf.wellness)
Website: LSF Wellness | Wellness and Mindset Coaching
Amy Vaughan,
Owner & Chief Empowerment Officer
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amypvaughan/
Takeaways
- Networking in Entrepreneurship
- Grounding Techniques and Mind-Body Connection
- Yoga and Mind-Body Connection
- Sales and Coaching Intersection
- Recognizing and Valuing Personal Abilities
- Managing Mental Exhaustion and Overwhelm
- Inclusive Networking Philosophy
- Inner Journey through Coaching and Yoga
Quotes
"Embrace life's rewinds, where plans unfold into beautiful chaos." -Tian Philson
"Guiding a mindful session harmonizes safety, alignment, and flow—a graceful journey of self-discovery." -Tian Philson
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
05:06 - The Art of Attentive Listening and Supervisor Consultation
11:37 - Joy and Strength through Yin Yoga
20:25 - Career Alignment and Yoga Certification
23:44 - Networking Visualization for Relationship Roles
28:28 - Missed Opportunities and Inclusivity Exploration
31:20 - Feedback, Coaching, and Yoga for Self-Guidance
40:20 - Headaches, Physical Cues, and Slowing Down
41:58 - Overlooked Internal Signals in Busy Lives
48:15 - Balancing Yoga Instruction and Technology Use
54:55 - Reflection and Energy in Work Approach
57:54 - Challenges and Rewards of Coaching
1:00:42 - Outro
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Hello everyone and welcome to our weekly power lounge. This is your place to hear authentic conversations from those who have power to share. My name is Amy Vaughn and I am the owner and chief empowerment officer of Together Digital, a diverse and collaborative community of women who choose to share their knowledge, power and connections. You can join the movement at togetherindigitalcom and today. I'm so excited to have you all here with us today because we are in for an insightful hour exploring how to source your power from within, and we are thrilled to have with us a Jay Jetty certified. I didn't say that right, did I?
Speaker 2:It's all right, it's all right. That's the beauty of life you can wind it back and run it.
Speaker 1:Jay Shetty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jay.
Speaker 1:Shetty, certified coach, and my friend Tyann Filson, who will guide us on the journey for our two authentic growth and help us to unlock our true selves and authentic selves, right Our imperfect selves and embrace that Embrace it all, embrace the messy, embrace the messy.
Speaker 1:So that, whether you're seeking more purpose fulfillment or professional or personal development, this is a power lounge session that is for you and I know again, many of us in this space, as ambitious and digitally savvy as we all are, we love talking about these sorts of topics. We are going to explore some key takeaways, such as understanding that your power comes from within, as Tyann just reminded us, embracing the messy journey of growth and recognizing the internet connection between authenticity and empowerment.
Speaker 1:So everyone please join me in welcoming Tyann. Thank you for being here today.
Speaker 2:Thank you, that was lovely. It's like you do this all the time or something. Yeah, I had a little practice.
Speaker 1:Practice makes perfect, you know, and even then it's not perfect, but that's okay.
Speaker 2:Perfect or progress, whatever you're aiming for. I am really actually trying hard to avoid perfect these days, oh yeah, but I like practice, I like the practice part.
Speaker 1:I like the practice too, you know. I don't even know what perfect is anyway, so it's fine. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here. You and I have got to spend some time in person and I really, really love your energy and I love your passion and so the chance to come on here and just spend this time together. This is my first time recording where there's like audience listening in this way, you know, aside from like your typical Instagram lives or your Facebook lives, things like that. So I'm excited for this part of it. This is new.
Speaker 1:I like it Me too, you know anymore. It feels odd when I don't have a live listening audience and things just get recorded and kind of canned and edited for later. So I'm used to being unedited. So, yes, we do have a live listening audience with us today. Folks, don't be shy. Drop questions, comments, into the chat If you have them. If you are a regular listener of our recorded podcast, check out our website and always take the time If you want to listen in live. We record every Friday, typically at noon Eastern. It's a great time to be a part of the conversation and we want to be talking with you, not at you. So, tyann, let's give everybody the chance to get to know you better. That's exactly why I wanted to have you here, because you know that appreciation for the energy, pivotal moments that made you realize that it was time for a change. What was that like?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love the question because it's really, really awesome to go back and reflect on this. You hit it on the head like right, there's not just one moment. I think. There are moments that lead you to take steps, little steps, towards something that feels a bit more aligned, a bit more like a better fit. So I could probably run back like 10, 20 of those moments if I went piece by piece. But if I really think about those last few months that were leading up to the shift and the change, there's two in particular that come to mind and one of those. And so to take you back to let me get this right May no, no, yeah, it was. It was May, it wasn't 22, it was May of 2021.
Speaker 2:And at the time I was at 8451, which is an organization that I still love very much to this day. And they have this great process in the sales journey, or the sales support process, where you have like five conversations, like five very deliberate career conversations with your manager, and you know, one's the mid-year, one's the end of year and there's a few check-ins. So this was the May check-in and I just remember not setting up the time, because it's the employee that's supposed to set up the time with their people leader, and I just remember I knew I needed to set up the time and I wouldn't set up the time. I'm like what is that about? This is kind of far enough in my journey that I'm learning to listen and tune in and check in and be like what is going on here. So my manager takes the initiative and he sets the time up with me so that we could have our conversation. And I came into the conversation and I had nothing. I had nothing to contribute in terms of here's what I'm looking for next. I mean, we'd had various conversations prior to that about the types of roles, the types of work that I was hoping to do and some things that I loved about the current position, but some things that I was really ready to move on from. And so the fact that, like for the first time in my career, like I couldn't even bring anything to the table to be like, well, let's try this, that was a really big indicator.
Speaker 2:The other part of it is the morning before that meeting. I was trying to, like I was grappling with this fact that this person who's always on top of her stuff has nothing to bring to this conversation and I was asking myself why. And I started like drawing out I don't know if you are familiar with Chitson, I'm probably saying his name wrong, chitson, mihai, he's got this flow state theory right and it has to do with when your level of challenge relative to your level of skill, or perceived perceived level of skill relative to perceived level of challenge, when it's in the optimal place where you're challenged just enough to grow, but like, if you're under challenged, you're bored and if you're over challenged it creates stress and anxiety. But there's this really beautiful, optimal space for growth and I was really trying to like explain to I was thinking about explaining this to my manager and I stopped myself and I was like this is not the place for that conversation, like this is not, I don't know. It just did not feel like a good fit.
Speaker 2:But what did become very apparent to me is I cared a lot about that idea. I cared a lot about those theories and those principles of motivation and I cared a lot about like what drives other people to do what they do and how do we optimize it. And it's like this light bulb went off and I started scribbling on my notepad and basically I was designing this idea of a role that looked like a coach, but I didn't know what to call it. So that's where it began. I was May of 21. By the fall of 21, I was enrolled in a coaching certification course.
Speaker 2:I was still doing my job every day and I was still bringing my all, but I was enrolling in this course because I was like I got to do something with this intention and this energy and then, by March of the following year, March of 22, the other pivotal moment was me in a meditation. I had been meditating about abundance. I had been meditating asking for clarity, and it was about three months before my birthday and I just got this whisper in me that was like what if you either found a new position or took the leap altogether? And it was like this very subtle whisper.
Speaker 2:And I was like oh my gosh, are we really doing this?
Speaker 1:And that's, those are the two big moments more towards like kind of the end of the journey that really led me to where I am now and that's really interesting because I think I've talked to a lot of women, obviously throughout the course of this podcast and I think many times we feel like it has to be some big, pivotal moment, some massive tragedy or firing or you know signs, massive sign from the universe that tells us now is the time, this is the instance in which you have to do this, and it sounds like for you it was this sense of almost numbness, I would say.
Speaker 2:Numbness, but also I really think that when our intuition is trying to guide us, it's more of a whisper, but it's a very clear whisper. When our intuition is trying to guide us, it's more of a whisper, but it's a very clear whisper. It's subtle but it's clear, and I'm really I will wholeheartedly say I feel like I still have lots of wonderful work to do on this journey of like really tapping into my intuition, but that is something that is being proved to me time and time and time again.
Speaker 2:It's like when it's clear. Me time and time and time again. It's like when it's clear it's not like this messy, like symbols banging. It's this subtle whisper of your heart, your mind, your gut.
Speaker 1:And you had to slow down for that right. I can imagine working in sales and at a company as large as 8451, which, if you're not local to Cincinnati they are a big data and insights company that does a lot in service with Kroger's, and so you know that's a it's not a hugely competitive space, but it's still it's.
Speaker 2:It's it's you know pretty, it's busy, it's demanding, it's challenging. Yes, in all the best of ways.
Speaker 1:Yes, so what was it that kind of got you to start? Were you always reflective and meditative, or was that something that you had to kind of grow into?
Speaker 2:I meditative, or was that something that you had to kind of grow into? I definitely had to grow into it. I mean, even now, like I have my moments. This morning was like kind of a chaos kind of moment where I found myself just a little bit all over the place, but now I can feel it. Now I can feel it in my body and be like hey, hey, girl, slow down, slow down, it's okay. But I've actually more so been the kind that's like running a little too fast and tripping over her own shoes and whatever. That's. That's kind of my default, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was an accidental discovery of yoga which first brought me into this space. I was doing circuit training and the wind down or the slow down from the circuit training was a P90, like the last tail end of the video and they, they interspersed if that's the word this yoga sequence in there. I guess it's not interspersed. They brought it in whatever, um, this yoga sequence, and I just loved the way it felt to like stretch and move my body and I was like, ooh, this thing right here feels good, it feels good. But even in the beginning it was like hot, hard and sweaty. It felt good, but I was not yet in a place to slow my mind down and really tune into my heart, and so that took some time, over the course of months and years, and then I really started to embrace the inner transformation of it into what it is today.
Speaker 1:I think it's one of those things I've learned too over time as I've gotten older. It's like we are taught and told as women we are meant to look a certain way feel a certain way be a certain way and we're not meant to want or desire. And so often, like I found, I was really lucky. I found yoga, I think when I was in, like my teens, I was 18. Oh nice.
Speaker 1:When I started and ever since then, and even as I've gotten older, I've definitely always chosen movement that feels good for both my body and my mind, and it's not that I don't want a challenge, but I also don't want to put my body under distress for the sake of making others more comfortable with how I look.
Speaker 1:Right For the sake of making others more comfortable with how that I look right, and so I have found things like yin yoga to be extremely wonderful, and that's a longer, like more floor supported yoga, and I know it's usually a bunch of 80 something year olds doing it. I don't give a damn. But I'll tell you what I can go out and I can do more high impact, high energy exercises and not get injured, because my tendons and my ligaments are that much stronger because of the deep tissue that I'm getting at by doing longer stretches and more yoga. You know, and it's one of those things just serving, if it serves your mind and your body and you get joy out of it.
Speaker 1:Why do we deny ourselves? It's like we just so often don't put our energy towards the things that bring us joy. But I think that's something, as I get older, that I'm starting to pay more attention to, and I think that includes in the types of, you know, not just movement and exercise, but the kind of work that you're doing, and so I love that. You did that. You saw that spark and you thought why am I so inclined to take my work review and turn it into a coaching session for myself? I?
Speaker 2:love that.
Speaker 1:You actually, in that moment, were coaching yourself and you took note of that. You got curious and started to pull it apart.
Speaker 2:I never thought about it that way. That's so insightful of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you totally did that and you did it in the moment and then you took note of it and I think you know it's hard for us to see our own gifts, I think oftentimes because they come so naturally to us we it's second nature we don't see it.
Speaker 2:Say that again Seriously, that is so real, like it is so real it's they're hidden to us or blind to us because it feels so easy and we almost dismiss it. And it takes either slowing down, like you said, or being open to the feedback of those that we trust, right, that have some credibility, which I think is an important aspect of that. But yeah, yeah. I love that. You saw that in yourself.
Speaker 1:I love that you saw that in yourself. So, now that you are coaching and looking back at your experience in sales and consulting, how has it informed how you coach and how you approach wellness?
Speaker 2:It's actually really, really cool. And to be honest. So now I'm into like I've now completed two full years right as an entrepreneur and doing this work full time. I think it was always there when I was doing the yoga, so the yoga was something I did alongside my corporate career for like five years before I did all of this full time.
Speaker 2:But now that I'm out of the sales career, I can look back and I can see just how integrated it all is. I think that the key word is connection, and I think that it's connection in two particular ways. I think in one way it's a connection to the experiences of what Others that I think I'm really well positioned to help support. It's a connection to what they might be experiencing or going through and how this can help serve them. And then I think the other part is it's a connection to my approach, essentially.
Speaker 2:And so when you're in sales, you know, the one thing that kept me going for so long was a genuine interest in the needs of others, and so, like, how can you solve that gap? Or how can you solve what's missing? And that's really at the heart of sales you are providing a solution to some sort of a challenge or problem. Now sometimes you're creating, you know, or identifying a need for something because, hey, there is value. It's like the iPhone. I don't think anybody was going. I wish I had this smarter thing in my hand, Right, but it did actually solve some issues. But anyway, my point is, the approach of sales helps me approach coaching in very similar ways of like really being deeply invested in, like what are the needs that are missing and how can I solve a challenge?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So that's probably like the big two Ladies what she's talking about? Right, there are transferable skills. I cannot tell you how many women I speak to that say I don't have. X, Y, Z I'm out there looking for a job in sales, but I don't have X, y, z. And you could flip it and say I've been coaching for 20 years but I don't have the skills to do sales. Guess what, tyann? You just proved them wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it and you know what. It's so fun because, like, when I'm working with my clients, we're talking about various topics and things that they're interested in, but oftentimes I'll hear some of those same themes of like, well, I'd like to consider this, but I don't have that, and oftentimes I'm bringing it back to what do you have? And I'm really looking for evidence and I'm looking for them to share with me and themselves out loud, like the evidence, and a lot of times they'll actually start to think about it and go well, actually, now that we're talking about it, I do know this and I do know this and I have done this, and I'm just sitting back and I'm going huh, how about that? Listen, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, that's common, though I think again, either something comes so easy that you miss it Hidden gifts, hidden gifts or you don't always give yourself the credit for the ways that it's come about in a very similar or transferable way.
Speaker 1:And I think again it just kind of comes to that I don't know why women get that rap or give themselves that rap that they are not good at sales. But it's like you just said it, you understand and meet the needs of others. Hello, how have we been conditioned? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know what I think it's because, unfortunately, and it's weird I mean now that I've taken a step away from the traditional and corporate side of sales, I have again a new appreciation for it. But I think when you're in it or when you feel like you have to step into it, it feels kind of like dirty, if you will, or like undesirable, and it's this negative connotation of like random slimy car sales person and that's what you associate with sales, because it has a negative connotation. But if you really step back and say, well, actually, how am I here to serve which is something that, thank goodness, in our coaching school we really spent some time kind of like going deeper into is sales, when done with heart, is actually about service.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And so I think a lot of times we lean into the negative connotation of sales instead of taking a step back and going. Actually, there's something really beautiful and really supportive in this opportunity, and I think that's where it gets lost. I agree Particularly, maybe more for women. I mean, a lot of studies and results say that women tend to be more adverse. But I hear it from men too. You know it's like I feel guilty, for you know, talking about myself, or talking about what I can offer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it's like actually, but you're helping to solve a need for somebody else. I know, I've been there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it is at that point where it is. It's making the ask, right.
Speaker 1:It's making the ask. It's closing the, it's a terminology around it, it's closing the deal. So I think it's like internal dialogue, internal roadblocks, mindset, it's all of those things. So you're right, I think it's like once you start to change that sort of inner approach and how you see it and how you frame it in your mind, that it can really start to sort of change how you approach it and how you look at it. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of good stuff to unpack there and it gives me lots of ideas, but we'll move on to the next question because we could go down that rabbit hole. Could you walk us through a little bit about the journey of founding love, strength and fitness, your business, and then what challenges that you faced in those?
Speaker 1:early days, because we've got a lot of entrepreneurs and, as I'd like to call them, those entrepreneur curious whether they know it or not, sure, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, I'd say it was a slow evolution. I think it was a very slow evolution first and foremost because I didn't set out to do this work full time. In fact, you know I'm excited for when my husband gets to listen to this if he's not listening already. Um, we had whole argument about, like you know I'm excited for when my husband gets to listen to this if he's not listening already. We had a whole argument about, like you know he's like you love this thing called yoga. And you know you think about, you know you want to get your certification. Like that can be a whole business for you. And I'm like scurrp, like hit the brakes, slow down, I have no interest, I don't want to do this as my career. No-transcript, his perspective.
Speaker 2:But this little seed, I think, started to plant in me and it helped me challenge my own beliefs and my own ideas. So, over time, the first step was well, I am interested in getting a certification for yoga, whether it's to go deeper in my own practice or whether it's just to help others find their own pathway inward right through yoga specifically. And so I said, okay, I'll at least get the yoga certification because that feels aligned. And then after I got the certification, I thought I don't want to lose. I have this thing about not wanting to waste my time or effort.
Speaker 2:And after going through all that training I was really concerned right, it's a lot. I was really concerned that if I didn't step out there and like, engage with people publicly, that it would just be something that I did for fun and never put to use. So then it was like you're going to teach a public class. I did it within three months of graduating because I knew otherwise I'd lose the nerve. I did that for, like I said, five years, but meanwhile this whole time I'm also on my own journey. So I'm going inward, I'm going inward, I'm going inward and over time what I came to realize is yoga is amazing and I love teaching yoga, but I didn't feel like yoga was the entire answer.
Speaker 2:I felt like if I'm going to work with people on my own terms, I need something more to offer beyond yoga. So you fast forward to that May conversation that I was not excited to have and this light bulb that went off and it was like what if coaching? What if coaching is that thing? And so, by the time I enrolled in the coaching certification course, I was pretty well clear that this was going to be more than just something I did on the side. I just didn't know exactly how and when, and you know what it was going to look like to bring it together. So that was the early stages of it.
Speaker 2:It was very much like slow progression. Slow progression, challenging my own ideas, listening, listening to the fears that were coming up and listening to also some of the pain I was experiencing. I mean, it's the word pain. It can feel worse than what it is, but even just like the discomfort of the day to day or the misalignment, the misalignment of like I really feel like I'm meant to be doing something different. Over time, the louder that voice gets, the more painful it got, because I felt disconnected from my authentic self.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and let's just take a moment and acknowledge the fact that you know our brain doesn't know the difference between physical and emotional pain.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Right, absolutely. I was just listening to something that like really validated that based on like science, like it really it handles it the same 100 percent.
Speaker 1:It does not know the difference. That and I just again kudos to your partner. I think you know, I think that's a it's always a question I have to anyone who is looking to start a business and make a big leap like that. And again you know you may not be in a relationship, but it's like what? What kind of support system do you have? Starting a business is is a big and scary, and sometimes lonely endeavor. So whether that's community connections, family, friends. You know a partner at home.
Speaker 2:What does it?
Speaker 1:look like. What kind of support do you have, and I love that you had support and encouragement to take that leap.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but it makes me think of the exercise that you did with us during supper club right, when you walked us through a networking exercise and I actually really loved the visual process of drawing those circles and connecting the dots between the role that different people in our lives play. And so to your point maybe you do or don't have a partner, or maybe they do or don't get it. That's beside the point. If you really sit down and think about the different levels of support that you have in your life, from emotional support to technical, you know people that know something, to people that are willing to challenge you, to those that are your inspiration. Right Like you start to really draw that map out.
Speaker 1:You have. I think most of us have more support than we realize. Yeah, yeah, I think I can imagine too. The part of going inward, you know, requires obviously looking at not just your strengths but your weaknesses, right, sure, and acknowledging those weaknesses, and then you've got to. You got to outsource some of that stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is to me the hardest part of entrepreneurship is how to outsource.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Absolutely, and I forgot to mention it earlier. But yeah, a hundred percent. We were talking about, you know, the sales and the icky feeling we sometimes get surrounding that and as you were describing it. I mean, I think a lot of people feel that way about networking as well, but we just don't realize how much of a benefit it is to how empowering? It is to others when we help become connectors and get ourselves connected Right.
Speaker 1:It's such an important thing to do, like you can't grow your business without sales, you can't grow your business without networking, absolutely, and it's they're not necessary evils, they're just absolutely essential and they can actually be a way to thrive and they can be joyful and they can be fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2:My, my number one kind of tip or recommendation around that, uh, networking specifically is figure out a couple of your core values and then take the time to step back and see where your core values are actually being supported in that networking process. Me personally there's two. One, it's a love of learning that I have, I call it growth and the other one is connection Right. And so when I get to network, I get to make new connections with others. I also get to connect, like to your point, their strengths and skill sets with either those that I know exist within others, and so you can make that organic, natural connection there. Or two, getting to make a connection.
Speaker 2:I lost my train of thought there but whatever, I'll leave it, I'll come back to it if it comes back to me. But like, the other part of it is that growth, getting to learn something new about what somebody else does, what their journey was like or whatever. And so I think if you can lean into what your personal values are, there's a way for you to, to your point, embrace and fall in love with the idea of networking for you.
Speaker 1:I agree. I think values alignment was a big eye opener for me. I spent a lot of time networking with different associations and it kind of always was like, okay, yeah, I'm here, but it felt so transactional and then again I wouldn't be sitting here, I didn't believe in it. But joining Together. Digital, and then seeing that there was a mission and values beyond just meeting and greeting and business card passing. It was really about empowerment and knowledge sharing and connecting and building professional friendships, relationships beyond the job.
Speaker 1:I was like oh wow, this feels so different. It feels so much more transformational than anything else, and so that was where I was like okay, this is where I would rather spend my time networking than just kind of going to some trade show floor.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean? It just doesn't it feels completely different. So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I think that's a great values. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm just curious. I want to ask you too, like, because I know networking is a topic that you have a lot of passion and heart for, but would you say that when you're networking authentically, it's almost hard to pinpoint the benefits that you're going to get. And so, like to your point, transactional networking, it's like if I give you a, you'll give me B, but I think transformational networking is I love your words, so I'm going to repeat those words transformational networking, it's almost like um, there's a level of abundance or possibility that is unknown to you until you go through with it, and then you get to see like the outcome. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, A hundred percent and I love that you brought that clarity to light Because, yes, I'm not overly strategic when I approach people, because I know that there is possibility and opportunity within everybody. So I'm not overly selective because I find that to be an antiquated approach to networking and I also find it to be what feels icky to a lot of people, because it feels like you're disqualifying people before you've given them a chance to meet them.
Speaker 1:And so sometimes you might actually miss a pretty awesome opportunity by not giving people your time and energy and attention.
Speaker 1:I also find it to be what perpetuates exclusivity and a couple other things that I don't necessarily care for in the way of just perpetuating, um and limiting opportunities for women, for people of color, for people with a certain socioeconomic status which is also something like I, just for the sake of inclusivity, I just don't find those things necessarily helpful in breaking down barriers, which is why I'm usually not big fans of you know communities that are only for people of a certain level in the workplace, or you know executives only kind of things, because I'm like, no, we need to let people in that are at all levels.
Speaker 1:They need access to those folks you know, so that they may receive the opportunity and I don't care if you are an executive or somebody just starting out of college. I'm going to give you my calendar link so that we can spend a half an hour talking to one another to find out how we can help support one another, because they're both deserving of each other's time.
Speaker 2:You know, you know what it's such a beautiful, just kind of like perspective that you share and it actually does make me think about what you said, too, about like the hidden gifts and the hidden potential within others. I think to your point. There's all these like selective and exclusive approaches that people have to how they engage with others, but I don't care who you talk to, I don't care their background, their education level, where they come from, whatever, everyone has something really powerful and really meaningful to offer and if you slow down and take the time to listen and genuinely be interested and genuinely be curious in their story, you will walk away shifted, impacted, changed in some positive way. And it doesn't matter to your point the title or you know how many years of X, y and Z they had. What matters is their authentic gifts and sometimes, yeah, yeah, I could go on about that. That's a, that's a soapbox for me, so I know right.
Speaker 1:Same same.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, let's, let's see. The next question I had for you was being both a certified Jay Shetty coach and yoga instructor. How do you blend these seemingly very different disciplines into your work, because you were kind of going on about how you did the yoga instructor and then you were at work and you were like, oh yeah, coaching. I think I want to pursue this, so how are? You kind of working those two things together now to pursue this.
Speaker 2:So how are you kind of working those two things together? Now it's you know what I'll tell you. It is still in evolution in terms of like how they actually come together. But what I fundamentally believe, and one of the reasons why coaching felt so aligned for me, is that in both cases you are taking yourself on a journey inward. In one case you roll out a mat and you get on that mat and you sure you've got a guide through the teacher, but it's really about the feedback that you're getting from yourself within, and then coaching is really no different, except you know you don't have to roll out a mat.
Speaker 2:We pull up a chair to each other or we hop on the phone or a Zoom or whatever the case may be, and you engage in a journey a conversation, where you get to go inward to source your own truth and your own answers, and so, to me, they are actually very well linked and very complementary to one another. What I'm trying to learn now, as you know, the steward of this beautiful work is I'm trying to learn because right now, I feel like the amazing humans that I engage with from a coaching perspective kind of live just in my coaching bubble, and then the amazing humans that I engage with from a yoga perspective pretty much live just within my yoga bubble, and I'm really trying to understand where the points of overlap do exist. And that's everything from my actual services to like literally. I'm relaunching my website, because they were two separate entities in the beginning and yeah it's, it's, it's, all of it.
Speaker 2:I do think that they very much compliment, but you have to be intentional and deliberate about how and when you bring them together.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess we need to connect you to some of our together digital ladies. Like Danal in Denver, he does some pretty awesome like websites and does some branding in Orlando. Yeah, If you don't have some help there already we've got some really amazing women who do some awesome work there in those spaces. Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1:I do think you know for me, I think that whole mind body connection is to me feels like an opportunity, because I think those of us who do live and work in the professional world spend all of our time up here for those who are just listening and not seeing me.
Speaker 1:Right now I'm pointing at my head. You know we spend all of our time in our minds and never like attached and in our bodies. And you know I I know this because I spent, you know, 14 years in the advertising world and was working as a creative director. And you know I spent a lot of time working to numb, you know, and just really, even though I discovered yoga at 18, you know I went off to college, took a gap year, year and a half, and then went right back into it, really aggressively, worked full time, went to school full time at night and you know, just kind of left all that behind and forgot about it for a long time and then had to come back to it because I was in severe burnout and, you know, needed to be reminded and I think it's just such a essential thing.
Speaker 1:And then I got to a point where I remember I used to block my calendar every afternoon. Instead of going to reach for the caffeine at two o'clock, three o'clock in the afternoon, I started going and doing an afternoon yoga stretch and meditation in one of the little huddles every afternoon in my agency, so that I could just get that little bit of boost of energy back, because I would be so in between all of the socialization and the conversations and the ideation and my brain would just be spinning like a top and it would be hard to get it to really slow down. I knew I'm like so far into my head I need to get back into my body. I literally you probably could have like stabbed me with a knife and I don't even know if I would have felt it, because I was just so in my head, right, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1:And so it's just really making sure that you know how to get back into your body, um, and then sometimes I feel like you know, other times I can totally detach from you, know my body, and then like or be in my body so much that like getting my brain to just focus and be present and be like attention. Sometimes it's like getting the opposite is hard as well. So like kind of having that balance and being attuned to when you're too much in one or the other. Yeah, it's definitely a thing.
Speaker 1:So I can really see how you know yoga practices within um and understanding mind body connection within an office space and understanding and regulating your nervous system while in an office environment is really essential for people and I know it feels a little woo for some folks, but when we deal with the amount of stress we deal with I also worked in healthcare, understanding and knowing it those types of things I think could help people tremendously from even just like a performance standpoint. I mean, we seem to care so much in this country about productivity. You could speak volumes about how that could help productivity as well.
Speaker 2:Sure, but you know what I love how you painted a very vivid picture for me. I'm literally picturing you, like getting this physical cue. That's like you know what. It's time for me to implement something different. So, like you said, you mentioned burnout, but you said it's time for me to implement something different. So, like you said, you mentioned burnout, but you said it's time for me to implement something different, and you took it upon yourself to create a space for you to, you know, shift from all that heavy head work into some body integration, some somatic work. So for those that, because, like for me, I'm like, oh my gosh, I see it, I can visualize it, I get it, I feel it. What were some of the feelings or sensations? Or how did you know? How did you know, so that you could make that connection?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me it's kind of like it feels like I've just stepped off of a carousel that's been just going too fast and I feel it's kind of like a dizzy feeling. But I haven't been moving, I've literally been sitting still.
Speaker 1:And so it's like I need to actually kind of either sit and be still or even just kind of like go for a walk Because I love walking meditations actually, because it's like a movement but then I'm not thinking. I once had a friend who used to go for runs with me. He asked me so what do you think about when you're running? And I was like, oh my gosh, I actually don't. I'm not thinking about anything. It's one of the few times where my brain actually stops is when I'm running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good for you, because mine is calculating my miles per hour rate, which at least it's not thinking about like my to-do list, but it's like. It's almost like a distraction, or like a welcome distraction, but anyway that's awesome that you can.
Speaker 1:Everyone's different, though. Some people get a lot of ideas while they're running. Some people do a lot of thinking while they're running to process so.
Speaker 1:But then other people like me detach, it's like while they run. So, like what I love to hike, and while I'm hiking my mind will wander and I tend to daydream a lot while I'm hiking, but I'm not really like stressing or like thinking over things too much. Um. So, yeah, I think really kind of knowing like what, how your body is feeling, what that, that, that sensation is, um, gives me that cue that yeah, okay, it's time to get off the carousel and find the find, the thing that needs to be done. And I've shared this before too. We had.
Speaker 1:I think it was when I was with with Dr Aquina Boateng several episodes ago. Now she's a clinical psychologist as well. We talked about that kind of that balance of ambition and wellness and I had shared something with her. I think it was on that episode where I, my my therapist, was like take your hands and place them on the top of your head. I could do this in a meeting. This is something I could do so that, even if I can't take that walk break or that meditation break, putting my hands on top of my head kind of slows that spinning sensation down, because the weight grounds my body and my seat a little bit more.
Speaker 1:And even just doing it right now, as we're sitting here it does. It helps me feel a little bit more safe, a little more grounded, and I could do it while I'm talking to people in the middle of a meeting and it's kind of like it doesn't throw any weird signals body language wise but it gives me that calming sensation, Isn't that wild?
Speaker 2:I'm putting that in my pocket honey.
Speaker 2:Like seriously, I'm putting that in my pocket, honey, like seriously, I'm putting that in my pocket. Here's the other thing that I'm sensing from that. And you know, like you said, we might have moved into a part of the conversation that feels woo for some, but I really believe that there's something physiological, and the part of it that I'm connecting to is chakra energy, and so this is your crown chakra, right up here, and so when you put your hands up there I mean I'm not going to try to get into the science of it in this moment, but what to me? The grounding, I think, is absolutely real I felt the weight of that, and I felt the weight of, like myself settling into my seat, but also.
Speaker 2:I think that when you're expending a lot of like mental churn energy, there is a physical kind of like over rotation sensation, and so I think you're, I think this is my belief, and this is probably the reason why I also love inversions right when my head is planted on the floor is I think that you're grounding your chakra energy, because for me so. I loved listening to you describe your sensations. It gave me, like it's shined a light on some of mine as well. I absolutely agree with the feeling of spinning. I used to tell my husband I feel like I've been in a spin cycle of a washing machine. That's how I would describe it. There's that.
Speaker 2:The other indicator is when I sit down or lie down, but I can't be still, I can't stop moving. I'm trying to be still and I, physically and energetically, can't stop moving. The other thing is I tend to experience headaches, and the headaches feel different than the typical headaches. They tend to be more like in my eyes or more toward the front of my head. Yeah and so yeah.
Speaker 2:Just having that awareness of what are some of your physical sensations and physical cues, I think is a really good way too. And so if you are, for days on end, feeling this way, or like in the heat of a day, learning how to slow down and how to get into your body and how to do some of those very subtle things to your point. I, you know, love to ground my feet I'm actually so. I put my seat up a little bit higher, so because my desk is tall. But I knew that if my seat was high then my feet wouldn't touch the floor. So I put two yoga blocks under my feet, so like I'm grounding my feet. But I really love your idea and your recommendation of like grounding from the top of your head.
Speaker 2:And I think if we all had those little tips and tricks it would at least help us slow down during the course of a day and perhaps get into the habit of doing it throughout the day or like each week.
Speaker 1:You've got something that you can lean into, yeah we have to not acknowledge how overstimulated we are as a society now with the amount of information we have coming at us now compared to past generations for sure.
Speaker 2:Thinking about that for sure, like you know, just thinking about today's conversation. So you're right, it like it sends us into mental, emotional and energetic overdrive and I think finding ways to bring ourselves back to presence and body and mind-body integration, I think are critical.
Speaker 1:On that note, like as people, because you mentioned the woundess, so that's probably one of them, but are there any other misconceptions that you would say there are out there about sourcing power from within?
Speaker 2:I mean honestly, yeah, it's a great place to insert that thought, that question. I think the misconception so often, I just think there's a lack of awareness of just how much of our power comes from within. I think that our body, our mind, you know, head, heart, gut, I think it's sending us signals all the time and I think, because we're so overstimulated from everything that's coming at us, from everything we're absorbing externally, I think we miss. I think we miss the internal signals a lot.
Speaker 2:I think we miss those whisperings that says you said yes to that activity when you really meant no, you said yes to that activity when you really meant no or you know you said no out of fear but really, if you challenged that fear, you'd actually want to say yes. I think that we're constantly getting signals from ourselves and it's just really hard, with the influx of all this stuff that's coming at us, to slow down and tune into them. And that's where the practices come in. And, to your point, doesn't matter if it's a walking practice I love walking practices A stillness practice, a journaling practice, a climbing practice, yoga, I mean, it can be anything something that helps you integrate your mind and body and kind of rebalance to your point, because sometimes you're heavy on one side and light on the other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that, that's so great, I love it. And again, there's no right or wrong. I think that's the other thing. People seem to think that there's one anecdote, one right answer for that and it's like no, you just have to kind of play and try and do and then figure it out, because we've talked about meditation and stillness and people are like oh God, I can't sit still, I can't do that. It's like okay, well, let's throw the camp out of there. And it's like, okay, try a walking meditation to start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then build that into at the end I have found oh my gosh, my. Some of my best meditations have been after a long walk when, I like my blood and I'm outside and I'm maybe like I stopped in like a near, like wooded area and I'm in the trees and there's nature around and I'm like on the ground. It's just like those are some of my best you know, meditation. So it's like play, try it and don't again. It's called a practice for a reason.
Speaker 1:You know, it's just because you're just going at it, and each session is going to be different than the other and it's never going to be the same and it's never just going to be oh, I've done it, I've accomplished the perfect meditation I've done. I never need to do this again.
Speaker 2:Right, right, all of that, everything that you said, I mean one things are going to be different and resonate differently for different people, and I think it's so important to honor that. I think the best question that we can ask ourselves is like, what do I need right now? Or in what ways am I able to hear the signals, the messages from myself, from my body, my head, my heart, my gut? I think answering that gives us clues. And then the other piece to your point, I love the word play is play, because what I need on Monday is probably not necessarily what I need on Tuesday, or what I need in the morning versus the evening, and so having a whole toolkit is so important and exploring and re-exploring too. One interesting thing when it comes to yoga is so there's eight limbs of yoga and within that there is the practice of the asana and there's also the practice of the meditation. And in the eight limbs of yoga, the asana, the yoga poses, actually comes before the meditation.
Speaker 2:And the reason why is because the movement of the body is what helps prime the mind and the body to be ready for the stillness. And so just to think about that as like there is a progression for a reason. And so for people that say I can't sit still and meditate, I mean, to your point I agree, like I don't know that I would say can't, but I would ask is that what you need right now? Perhaps what you need is just something slower than the hundred miles per hour that you're running.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like maybe you just need to slow it down from a run to a walk Right and then a walk to a stand and a stand to a sit. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's progressive and it's also different for everyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like you said earlier, it's okay to get messy.
Speaker 2:Messy.
Speaker 1:And on the note of getting messy, I think it's always good to share so that other people know it's okay. So I was wondering if you could share a personal messy moment from your own journey where ultimately, it led to some growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay. So it's funny because messy has become something I hold so near and dear to my heart that I don't know that I always pick out a messy moment. To me it's just life, yeah, Like to me it's just life. Like, at this point, it's just life, but one. I think that just yesterday so this is still fresh in my mind a beautifully messy moment, I had the honor of being the keynote speaker for NextUp Cincinnati yesterday, and thank you for NextUp Cincinnati yesterday and thank you.
Speaker 2:I had such a well-organized plan down to like you know what was going to fit into what time chunk and when we were going to do whatever like interactive exercise, and right out the gate the mic wouldn't work for me, Like I don't know what I was doing, but every time I shifted it it went out, and so we tried with that for like two or three minutes and finally just ditched the mic. It was messy. My interactive activities were not cooperating the way that I thought they would Like. Inevitably, things are never going to go exactly according to plan and to me it wasn't a stressful messy, but it was an acknowledgment, A knowledgeable messy to be like this is not going according to all the pieces of things that I have on my sheet, but I was able to just really embrace that with a lot of self-compassion, and what happened at the end of that is people said thank you so much for modeling what you coach on. I heard that from several, several, several people Thank you for modeling what you coach on, and that, like this, does not have to be perfect. We don't have to like lose our shit and get stressed out about it. Like we can embrace it. And also it gives others permission to show up with authenticity and be like I am not the first person who couldn't figure out why the mic wouldn't work or couldn't get their system to change the way it's supposed to, and so giving people permission to show up more authentically and messy. I think that's a really recent example and I think the growth in that is me getting to ask myself OK, so would you want to change anything about that? Or you know like, would I change my technology? I mean maybe tweaks, but not changes, Right?
Speaker 2:And then the other part is I think about my journey on as a yoga teacher, and in the beginning I really wanted to make sure, like everyone, had a quality experience in the yoga session, and so that meant to me remembering the poses I had planned for them, getting the lefts and rights together. You know what I mean, Because when you're, when you're, teaching yoga, I don't know if people understand just how many things are going on in your mind at the same time. It's like supposed to be this very Zenful practice, but also I'm watching like 12 different mats and trying to keep everyone safe in their body alignment and trying to make sure, like hey, we move through a flow that makes sense for how our body wants to experience. Like some poses don't make sense to put before other poses because the body's not ready.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, the point is is I used to get really tangled up in like trying to make that really smooth for people, and when I learned to embrace the messy of it, I learned to laugh with it. I learned to have a lot of compassion for myself and also to just again model what I was hoping to bring to the mat, which is like hey, guys, we forgot an entire side of the body. We're going to rewind and we're going to do all of that now, just like life, it's not going to go according to plan and you can just be really gentle with yourself and laugh about it and like it's not that serious, it's just not. It's not.
Speaker 1:This is what I want you all to remember, cause I feel like I love this, is the writer Amy coming out and it's like that alliteration right Of the three Ms. When you let things get messy and you let other people see it, you're modeling the behavior right. You're allowing by modeling and you're making yourself memorable. How? Much more memorable was your talk from yesterday. How many more?
Speaker 1:people are going to walk away remembering you now because you allowed that to happen, right Would you have gotten those same compliments and comments maybe from the talk, if you hadn't had that messy moment and then modeled the behavior.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my heart is buzzing right now and it's saying you're spot on the behavior. Yeah, my heart's my heart is like buzzing right now and it's saying you're spot on it's. That's what it's saying right now. It's like you're spot on Um, because, like, had I walked in there and everything had been perfect, I don't know that they would have gotten the same demonstration, right. And I will say, too, the mindset shift says, like, when I walked out of there, instead of feeling, um, discouraged by any of that, I was thankful to the universe to be like, well, thanks for giving me real time, you know, opportunity to show that, because I didn't have that in my plan. I did not have in my plan to like demonstrate what it feels like to keep calm under stress. So the universe provided that for me, you know, and so I was grateful instead of, you know, lamenting any part of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let it be messy. Model it. Let it be messy, make yourself memorable, yep.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that Well and it reminds me, too, of that practice of non-attachment right Non-attachment to outcome which is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:It's so hard, but it's so good it's it is, it really is whenever, cause if you are, you know, like me and I feel like we're similar in this way, tyann of just like being somebody who likes to plan and, you know, host and provide experiences for people and you do you have oftentimes a desired outcome. This comes for a lot of us, too, women that get put in the seat of being the host.
Speaker 1:You're planning parties, vacations, things like that, and so you have this dream, this vision of the day and how things will go and it's like oftentimes you don't get to be present and there for the moment when you are attached to the outcome. And if you can learn to let that go and just be there for the moment and be present whatever kind of comes your way, you can really respond and then receive in such a different way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. Respond and receive. I make a joke all the time now because my husband is actually really good at being present for the moment and his number one message, I feel like, or one of his superpowers, is pivot. Yeah, and you can't pivot if you are holding on to the way and the outcome that you thought it was going to be. And so, yes, respond and receive, I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now that you've been coaching for a while, I would love to talk a little bit about how you've been able to help some of your clients evolve. Could you give us an example of a transformative moment when a client that you were able to witness, a client, when they have been able to truly tap into their inner power literally my clients start?
Speaker 1:coaching themselves. That's what happens in our sessions. The coachee becomes the coach, that means you're doing a good job. Diane, it means they're putting in the work too right.
Speaker 2:I give them so much credit because I was with a client this week and we were having a time for reflection and it's beautiful because it's often very organic. I don't always say, okay, this coaching session is going to be a reflective coaching session. No, I come in and ask them like, what do they want to talk about today? And she started reflecting and when she did, she started highlighting her key takeaways and then she started asking herself, like the next question. And I'm like well, that's what I would typically do, but she did it.
Speaker 2:And I just sat back and was like girl.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like. That's the moment. It's like, well, she's like. Well, I came into you thinking about X and thinking I wanted Y, she's like. But now, after this time that we spend together, I've come to realize dot, dot, dot, dot dot. And then she's like, which makes me wonder, and it's like she literally guided herself through it. And it's beautiful because we are toward the end of our coaching, our formal coaching. You know, agreement, we are toward the end of our coaching our formal coaching.
Speaker 2:You know, agreement, relationship together, and I'm just like sitting here in awe and I told her I was like girl, I don't even know if you need me anymore. She's like no, no, no, not so fast, not yet. But it's beautiful. That's what happens is they start to coach themselves, they start to see their own transformation and they tell me what they saw. It's not about me telling them what I see. It's about them telling me, like, how they've gotten from point A to B to C to D, and that's really beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is there one I know it's so hard to pick out anyone and we don't have to name names or anything but like do you feel like there's been like a big, like pivotal shift for anyone in particular, having gone from point A to point B, that you were not expecting to see a kind of like a big shift or pivot?
Speaker 2:I can't say that I wasn't expecting to see. I believe in the magic of it, I really do, and so I can't say I wasn't expecting to see it. I think that one in particular that's coming to mind for me is like.
Speaker 2:She's someone I love dearly and I respect so much for like how she approaches her craft and how she approaches her work, and she always like comes ready, like ready for the conversation, having done her own reflections and her own kind of like stepping back, and it's the magic that happens outside of the coaching session.
Speaker 2:And the pivotal shift, I think, is when she came into a session, and I mean she, it's like her whole energy shifted from like asking me and being like, well, what do you think about such and such? To being like well, here's how I'm solving these questions for myself. Like she just came I mean, it's the same thing in a way, but I'm thinking about a very specific person. It's like here's how I'm solving this for myself now. And instead of her looking to me for the answers, she said I know I have the tools now. Instead of her looking to me for the answers, she said I know I have the tools now. She said I know I have the tools now. And she's like I see, I see the thing that I was seeking before it's here, it's already here and I just need to keep doing the work. And I was like it makes me so happy, but it also makes me sad, because it means we won't be having like as regular of connections.
Speaker 2:But it's so beautiful, so bittersweet it is, it is.
Speaker 1:Well, and it's one of those things I've said to people so many times, like don't outsource your knowing, don't outsource your knowing, but it is such a hard thing, you know, to, to not do that, to not, you know, just kind of seek affirmation and to just, you know, consult everyone in the world about every little thing to pull the audience.
Speaker 1:But, at some point it's like you can't do that for every little thing, and life moves so much faster and smoother when you're working in alignment to what your values and your beliefs and your strengths are.
Speaker 1:But I think that takes time, that takes intention, that takes slowing down, that takes guidance, which is why it's awesome to have folks like you, tyann that have this experience and this like strength and you know frameworks that just really help people kind of find that for themselves and you know that can kind of guide them to that and get them into that space. All right, we are going to do a fun little lightning style power round set of questions and if our live listening audience has any questions for tyann, we will get to those before we wrap after the power round. Other than that, we will finish it up for the day, but this has been so much fun, so thank you again. Thank you for having me. I'm excited for us to get together.
Speaker 2:We're probably gonna hang out and do some yoga here soon, so you can come to my space up here in Coleraine, or you can bring me to your space and where you like to go. Both are viable options.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely All right. So here we go. Let's see you ready. Okay, what is your go-to practice for quickly centering yourself?
Speaker 2:I feel my feet. I feel my seat.
Speaker 1:I am breathing. I love it. Do it anywhere.
Speaker 2:I feel my feet, I feel my seat, I am breathing.
Speaker 1:Love it, corporate job or coaching, which is more challenging, and why?
Speaker 2:This is a hard, hard question, I might give you another answer but I would say it's actually the coaching. The entrepreneurial side, the business building side of the coaching is actually harder. You've got so much more to figure out but it's actually so much more rewarding. I'm happy to put in twice the time that I was putting in before.
Speaker 1:I feel that. I feel that it's a different kind of hard right, it's a different kind of challenge. If you could give your younger self one piece of advice, what would it be? Let it be messy. Do you have that on a t-shirt yet? If not, we're getting you one. No, but you know what?
Speaker 2:So up here in our center like we do. We, I'm going to thank you. I mean, I'd accept any gift you give me, but actually that is something that we could put together and I think people will resonate with it.
Speaker 1:It's part of our business that we offer. I love it. What's the most?
Speaker 2:unexpected lesson yoga has taught you about leadership. How much of the answers are already within me.
Speaker 1:Love. That yeah, all right, finish this sentence.
Speaker 2:True empowerment is True empowerment is letting go. That's so good.
Speaker 1:True empowerment is letting go Talk about that tingles there. That's good stuff. Good stuff, my goodness. Well, I can't wait to hang out some more, like yoga we talked about. We've got a wellness event that's coming up. What is it Next weekend?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the, yeah, the power to pursue wellness summit, which I get to go and participate in. That's going to be amazing, and I've got yoga here every Thursday and sometimes a special event class, so I hope to see you and anyone who's interested. I love live engagement. I love it. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, cincinnati friends, be sure to check out those awesome, awesome events that are happening. Let me check our chat regarding the aforementioned spin. Oh, awesome, elizabeth, thank you for your question. Can you tell the difference between what could be potentially a positive spin and a negative spin?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good question. That is such a good question. I think that a positive spin makes me tingle with excitement and possibility. I think a negative spin leaves me to your point, amy dizzy. And it literally does not feel good in my body.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, negative spin. I think feels like it stays in my head where the positive spin and it kind of leaves me like short of breath and the positive spin it kind of like is more of like a whole body experience and I feel more energized versus like whoo, like out of breath.
Speaker 1:That's how I would describe it. Great question, Elizabeth. I love that there's a. There's a distinction, for sure, and there can be a positive and a negative for sure. Yeah, All right, folks. Well, we're out of time. Be sure to follow Tyann on LinkedIn we will include and her website, lsfwellnesscom. We'll include those in the chat Live listeners. If you haven't grabbed those yet, make sure you grab those before we close out. You can also find those in the show notes once this is posted up and live.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for being with us here today. I appreciate you. Thank you all for being here. Amy, thank you for having me and for such a rich conversation. I loved learning more about you Like. This was amazing, ditto.
Speaker 1:Ditto, all right, everyone. Have a fantastic rest of your Friday. Thank you so much for taking time to join us. Until then, everyone, we'll see you next week and keep asking, keep giving and keep growing. See you next week, bye, bye.